Why Western girls hate Thailand and especially Thai Girls

@zed: Speaking for myself, I don’t think I’m saying that people aren’t entitled to choose their lifestyle or can or cannot have whatever opinion they choose. However racism is racism and to call someone on that isn’t something that I necessarily apologize for.

And while I agree that all people (not just women) have their good and bad qualities, I don’t agree with your “without women, life would be crappy” sort of stance. I disagree not because life would be great without women but that statement implies that men need women. Men and women need each other. It’s the “men need women” sort of mindset that has western men putting western women on a pedestal rather than on equal footing. Women also need men and we shouldn’t forget that fact. To forget or overlook that fact only serves to perpetuate the inequality between men and women.

Look what the OP said. You can’t tell me that if Dao was a woman and some drunk guy approached her in a bar that any of that behavior would be seen as appropriate. Now, I personally think Dao’s behavior was somewhat childish but nobody would ever fault a woman for treating a man similarly given the inappropriate way in which the woman approached him. Wouldn’t this thread be full of people vilifying such a man who acted the same? Wouldn’t they be outraged at the way he was treating this poor woman as a sexual object that he wished to use for his own pleasure?

So why does having a vagina excuse that sort of behavior? Why is it evil for a man to objectify a woman but supposed to be flattering when a woman objectifies a man?

The male-female relationship is fundamentally flawed in western society today. And what angers many farang women so much is that Asian women are exposing the inequality. That’s why some farang women react so violently and call them whores and attempt to paint any Thai/farang relationship as slavery or prostitution.

It’s funny because GMA has both claimed that Thai women kiss men’s asses and that in farang culture men and women have equal rights and responsibilities. Really? Let’s diagram a first date. First off, the date is not equal in any way. The man is auditioning for the role of boyfriend and the woman is a judge. She auditions for no role because in her mind her having a vagina qualifies her to be a girlfriend. She spends the entire evening acting like Simon Cowell on American Idol scrutinizing your every move. Did you open the door for her? Did you pull out her chair for her? Did you pour her glass of wine first? What kind of watch are you wearing. Are you witty? Did you talk too much about you and not ask enough about her?

But in Thailand, you take a girl out and when the waiter brings over your wine or water and the girl immediately grabs your glass and pours. When the food comes she grabs the serving fork and puts food on your plate.

Many farang women like to characterize this as being subservient but is it? You’re paying for the meal. Wouldn’t it seem like common courtesy that the person paying is served first? It’s actually mind blowing to think of all the common courtesies two male friends would extend to each other that women don’t think that they have to show on a date.

If you’re auditioning for the role of boyfriend shouldn’t she also been auditioning for the role of girlfriend?

That’s equality. It’s not subservience. Unfortunately, back in the west many women have gotten it mixed up in their heads. Trudy and farang_girl are perfect examples of this where they say things like “I’ll pamper a guy if he deserves it.” Well, how does he go about deserving it? Oh, that’s right he has to kiss your ass first.

It’s almost funny to read what the farang women have to say if you’ve experienced Asia. Like farang_girl complaining that she sat there on the couch all night and not one single farang guy came over and approached her to offer her a drink. And those Thai girls just kept walking right up to the farang guys and capturing all of their attention.

See, that’s her equality. She wants to sit back on the couch and the men should come to her. When the Thai women go up and approach the guys she unleashes all sorts of negative comments about their character because they’re going after what they want. But for farang_girl that’s not how it’s supposed to work. She’s supposed to be able to sit back and have men chase her. How dare those Thai women disrupt her reality.

I’ve always said that I don’t hate farang women. I hate farang women who feel that the only way to cope with a different reality when they come to Thailand is to hurl insults. They try to make all the guys into pathetic losers who they wouldn’t have sex with anyway and as GMA so eloquently put it, the Thai women are all bitches just after our money.

Ladies, Thailand isn’t going to change so either go with the flow or go home. This rabid anti-Thai attitude and trying to convince me that I’m a fat, bald, ninety year old, pedophile, who could never get laid back in the west. I know all of that to be untrue.

@Ruai. I agree with most of what you are saying, but for my part, I choose not to generalize. I think you would find that some farang women are totally sensitive to their husbands needs and put his well being first. On the other hand, you would find there are Asian women that are bitchy and demanding, materialistic and self centred.
What I am saying is do not enter a relationship , with preconceptions.
Make an informed decision, once you get to know the person.
I have an Indian friend, who married a white woman, older than himself, who dedicated her life to making him happy, to the point of washing his feet in a basin of perfumed water EVERY day when he gets back from work.
She is no gold digger, as he has a low paying job at a factory. She does it only out of love.
This flies in the face of all preconceptions people have of white women.

This is kind of crazy – who would want a girl who bathes your feet with rosewater every night? No man with spirit would. One doesn’t have to go to the extremes of feminism – or even think the male/female relationship has to be equal in every respect – to be disgusted by the idea of a girl placing herself so far beneath you.

Is that really what is wrong with western women, that they don’t become absolute slaves?

It’s a shame that everything in the modern world has to be in extremes. The slavishness of Asian women is boring and repugnant to every intelligent, high spirited Western male, while the masculinity that many Western women have acquired is equally off-putting and kills any attraction.

The typical (notice I say typical, not all) Asian woman is impossible to respect, value highly, or find interesting, while the typical (same disclaimer) Western woman has acquired masculine attributes that go a long way to killing her native feminine charm and sex appeal. What a sorry state of affairs!

There really needs to be a happy medium, a woman who has oodles of feminine charm while cultivating her intellect and refuses to completely abase herself before any male. Sadly, such a woman is found neither in Asia nor the West in the 21st century. You would have to look to former historical periods.

@George: I’ve never been comfortable with a live-in slave. I know some friends who are into it but I tend to date women who are very lady-like but nowhere near slaves.

The majority of guys I know who are into the slave thing end up bitching and moaning about how their wives won’t do anything unless they’re told and have no initiative. So . . . I think on the whole, nobody really wants that. Some people just think they do.